tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post4293489988288236452..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: white quotation of the week (bell hooks)macon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-39793131503588153532010-02-28T07:54:57.298-08:002010-02-28T07:54:57.298-08:00Re the linked abagond post: the commenter there na...Re the linked abagond post: the commenter there named "no slappz" could well be the guy that "willing" was talking to!macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-17853385189457152022010-02-28T07:49:07.059-08:002010-02-28T07:49:07.059-08:00How about this post by abagond? And here's the...How about <a href="http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/rootedness/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> by abagond? And <a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/3216660" rel="nofollow">here's</a> the academic version of the same/similar argument.fromthetropicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03920987423034922878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-63257271452113465742010-02-28T07:42:24.470-08:002010-02-28T07:42:24.470-08:00willing,
The best source of that sort that I'...willing,<br /><br />The best source of that sort that I've encountered is Karen Brodkin's book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Jews-Became-White-Folks/dp/081352590X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1267371369&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"><i>How Jews Became White Folks</i></a>. It's an anthropological approach to white Jewish success in the U.S., but it's very accessible, and full of her own personal history, and if I remember right, she addresses exactly the kind of white Jewish complaint about black Americans that you're talking about. (I excerpted the book in this post: <a href="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/11/reap-benefits-of-affirmative-action-for.html" rel="nofollow">reap the benefits of affirmative action for whites</a>.)macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-62604587422479569282010-02-28T07:33:30.046-08:002010-02-28T07:33:30.046-08:00I just had a "discussion" with a white m...I just had a "discussion" with a white man last night (my husband and I are also white but realize how much we have benefitted from living in a culture that does not punish us for our skin color). As a jew, he was expressing his outrage at how he perceives the African Americans use their history of oppression to "not achieve" when his culture has experienced oppression but has always overcome slavery, annihilation, and general prejudice and achieved despite antisemitism. My husband and I pointed out the very long history of slavery, the hundreds of years of humiliation and family separation that was endured by African Americans, as well as the very obvious handicap of having physical characteristics that make it impossible for a person with dark skin to "pass" as white. He remained unconvinced and cited Asian peoples as having overcome discrimination (I know it's a joke), etc.<br /><br />Anyway, is there anyone out there who can lend me some kind of story or ironclad point of view to convince this educated (PhD) man to drop his misguided anger at African Americans??? I know it's a strange request, but this man is convinceable, and I have personally exhausted all of my stories and arguments with him.<br /><br />Thankswillingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-35807751050231188652010-01-14T07:27:24.082-08:002010-01-14T07:27:24.082-08:00I am a student studying in England who feels privi...I am a student studying in England who feels privileged to have grown up in a community that is of mixed culture and has far less racism than that of the US.<br />I am a mixed race female and have rarely come across any racism myself.<br />When looking at the comments on here, I find the angry comments sad. I find myself in agreement with decaffer28 who comes across to me as being a nice person and not at all racist but still gets it wrong? <br />It is hard to form a united nation when groups continue to segregate themselves and hold on to past events between people who are no longer living, by doing this no-one can truly ‘move on’.englishgirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-26472959594797292052009-06-15T11:28:34.609-07:002009-06-15T11:28:34.609-07:00I just found this blog bc I've been on a bell ...I just found this blog bc I've been on a bell hooks roll. I didn't even know there was a name for what I've been suffering. WPF, so simple, so accurate. The beauty of privilege is not having to notice it. (Most) white people can not see how white culture and aesthetics "say" things that are not explicitly verbalized. From the selection of speakers to the continental breakfast spread, everything works together to create an overall environment. I know what you mean about feeling terrorized.MALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-5495077952401420682009-05-29T22:51:20.930-07:002009-05-29T22:51:20.930-07:00Decaffer28,
Get off your imagined high horse. "Bl...Decaffer28,<br /><br />Get off your imagined high horse. "Black People Fatigue"? Really? Are you constantly surrounded by Blacks, their "mainstream normative views", and everything else that's catered to them? Really? <br /><br />If you don't think Affirmative Action is fair, stop benefitting from it. Sorry to burst your ignorant bubble, but the group that's most beneficial from it is white women. So, of course, you don't want to give up on something that's made your life easier AS A WOMAN in the workforce! <br /><br />Generally, Racism is not a crutch used by people of color. It's a reality that needs discussion, not avoidance to suit your insecurities. Wake up and smell the coffee. Having a black president does not erase the damage caused by racial inequalities in the same manner as having a female Secretary of State won't erase sexism overnight.<br /><br />You are old enough to have seen the sixties.<br /><br />Grow up!honeybrown1976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-27568635480844905222009-05-29T21:33:40.538-07:002009-05-29T21:33:40.538-07:00As a white person born in the early sixties, I gre...As a white person born in the early sixties, I grew up watching shows like "All in the Family", "The Jeffersons", "Sampson and Son", etc. where white people were depicted as ignorant, racist, stupid. The white characters that were intelligent were the ones that scolded the other white characters for their racism. (Although in "The Jeffersons" and "Good Times", the white people were pretty much always presented as stupid racists.) As a little girl, I felt like I had to be extra nice to black people to show them that I wasn't racist. I didn't like that they were treated so unfairly. Although I do believe there was a time and a place for these shows, as well as Affirmative action, I am sick of being blamed for all the problems of the black community.I'm tired of hearing racism against whites as well as descrimination in the work place through affirmative action. I as a white person have seen and heard what I considered prejudice against me, but it seems like it's acceptable as long as it is not against a black person. As a nurse, I took care of people of all colors as if they were my own family. My point is, please don't have a double standard. This is 2009. We have a half black/half white president. Enough with using racism as some sort of crutch or weapon against white people, I don't think affirmative action is fair anymore, either. I think it had its day, but no more. We are equals and we should start acting that way. I can tell you "stuff black people do": Call each other the 'N' word. I've seen it on the street and even in the mall while trying to shop w/ my children. I tell my children the "N' word is unacceptable and then they hear black kids calling it to each other. I hope I've shed a little light from a white person's perspective. What about the New Black Panthers bullying white people at the voting polls? How come that wasn't a hot topic? Because it was against white people, not black people. Personally, I'm getting black person fatigue, and it saddens me.decaffer28https://www.blogger.com/profile/14107361813163397816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-79385367991671894562009-03-16T09:54:00.000-07:002009-03-16T09:54:00.000-07:00hello, i have something to say to anonymousi am do...hello, i have something to say to anonymous<BR/>i am doing an essay on the series "roots" and as i was searching for information, i saw this, i read parts of it and when i saw "black people fatigue", i flipped out. I'm sorry but you can ofcourse not say that without sounding or being racist. i think that if you would have to deal with the jokes offending you and your family the whole damn day, you would also call your hatred towards them "the white people fatigue", however at the same time, i believe saying that is also quite racist.<BR/>but i dont think you (anonymous) had in mind all those years black people served white people as slaves, when you have a family who has wiped the shoes of the black people, been raped by their "owners", then you can say that you maybe dont sound racist when you say that you feel that you have the "black people fatigue". Im sorry, but that comment just really pissed me off...<BR/>great blog btw..<BR/>bye :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-54440213822112306902009-02-01T11:57:00.000-08:002009-02-01T11:57:00.000-08:00Does anyone ever feel black people fatigue? I mea...Does anyone ever feel black people fatigue? I mean would it necessarily be racist to feel that? I work with mainly black people but I'm white and sometimes notice that the way many of my coworkers talk and interact are different from what I'm used to. Everyone's friendly but like I say its different and sometimes I get sick of it and just want to get away and back to what's familiar. But this post makes me think maybe that's allright, I mean if black people can feel white people fatigue and have it be allright then I suppose it's fine for me to talk about having black people fatigue?<BR/><BR/>Hi Macon and thanx for your blog, I read it all the time but have never commented before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-44293015804447470102009-01-31T09:09:00.000-08:002009-01-31T09:09:00.000-08:00Hi there, completely off topic but just wanted to ...Hi there, completely off topic but just wanted to say hello :-)Invisible Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299734445263175345noreply@blogger.com