tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post3342899076942599271..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: assume that other white people enjoy making fun of and trash-talking non-white peoplemacon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-83522432877549849702010-04-13T22:59:54.277-07:002010-04-13T22:59:54.277-07:00Lol, I'm glad that you actually said that VIct...Lol, I'm glad that you actually said that VIctoria, but alas, sadly it is in vain since morons like him usually dont change & never do have or get enough brains to figure out such simple things which u have stated. I do applaud you for your effort but sadly as is the case with so many others, it is just wasted as it doesnt really teach these racist idiots anything as they are too stupid to comprehend even such simple things as these.idontknowwhoiamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-3451932377294595152010-04-12T16:32:44.276-07:002010-04-12T16:32:44.276-07:00I think I agree the most with what SONIC is saying...I think I agree the most with what SONIC is saying, but most of the comments here are very wise, insightful, openminded & accurate of how hurtful & narrowminded & common racism is. I agree fully with sonics comment though, many racists simply dont understand how wrong or senseless their actions & remarks are. These same ppl who make racist jokes also cant take jokes about their own ethnicity yet make them frequently & habitually which doesnt make much sense.Random Wiseguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-42496851948651130032009-12-15T12:14:40.179-08:002009-12-15T12:14:40.179-08:00@outspoken
I somehow missed your oh-so intelligen...@outspoken<br /><br />I somehow missed your oh-so intelligent response to my post. You are in the land of the clueless.<br /><br />#1 I do not need a pat on the back for being a decent human being. I don't tell racist jokes and I don't laugh at them because it's rude and demeaning.<br /><br />#2 You and I are both white, but there is NO camaraderie between us based on our skin color. That's like saying that your friends are your friends because they have cool hair. <br /><br />#3 Please do NOT confuse the stuff your friends have allowed you to do and say in their presence as a pass to do it in the rest of the world and think you won't piss someone off or completely demean them.<br /><br />Racist jokes are simply immature and ignorant jokes - they're for people who aren't clever enough to come up with something that doesn't belittle and dehumanize other human beings. Point blank. <br /><br />You'd better believe that you have at LEAST one white friend out there who thinks you're a knuckle dragging moron every time you tell one of those jokes, and two black friends who love you too much to tell you what an ass you are being. And if you've ever wondered why they stopped talking to you out of the blue or over something seemingly very simple - now you know.Victoriahttp://vintagelux.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-91945094893211354982009-12-08T22:43:23.426-08:002009-12-08T22:43:23.426-08:00Sorry, no can do, too busted from paying for mine....Sorry, no can do, too busted from paying for mine.macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-48480398623766106402009-12-08T22:41:03.421-08:002009-12-08T22:41:03.421-08:00Macon,
I hope you know you're responsible for...Macon,<br /><br />I hope you know you're responsible for providing the means for my liver transplant.RVCBardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06481089855894764409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-36363309924263226142009-12-08T22:10:04.994-08:002009-12-08T22:10:04.994-08:00Did we just get a "my Black friend says it...Did we just get a "my Black friend says it's okay so NYAH?"<br /><br />*chugs*Witchsistahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01603586060096649666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-34042542359056551702009-12-08T22:06:08.804-08:002009-12-08T22:06:08.804-08:00Dear outspoken,
There's a really awesome web ...Dear outspoken,<br /><br />There's a <a href="http://www.derailingfordummies.com/" rel="nofollow">really awesome web site</a> out there you should visit. Especially the part labeled "Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!"<br /><br />And btw, racist jokes are racist. Period. If you want to go on telling them, then why not just admit that you're being racist when you do so?macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-77478652805044928092009-12-08T21:58:48.218-08:002009-12-08T21:58:48.218-08:00Whenever I read or hear about stuff like this I th...Whenever I read or hear about stuff like this I think it's an example of someone trying to prove to themselves how good they are. People who say racist jokes and say they aren't racist are basically telling a half truth. I have several black friends that I tell black jokes to, and they tell white jokes to me. It's a sort of camaraderie. That doesn't mean I hate black people, or think I am superior to them or any race (which is the definition of racism). Maybe a joke is just a joke, and you should leave it at that.outspokennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-69236657021478825872009-12-03T17:26:19.365-08:002009-12-03T17:26:19.365-08:00I encounter this racism myself. Even with people w...I encounter this racism myself. Even with people who I am close to. I've given up on saying anything because they just call me a " "lover or some other comments. Trying to say anything doesn't seem to accomplish much. I wish it weren't this way.me 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-83864592276370514122009-12-02T18:25:32.946-08:002009-12-02T18:25:32.946-08:00thanks to those of you who responded to my comment...thanks to those of you who responded to my comment/question. <br /><br />the sticky part for me is that in these situations i'm dealing with family members who are a generation older than me -- so i feel stuck between treating them respectfully and kindly while feeling so much anger at the disgustingly racist and sexist emails i get so frequently. if they weren't older family members, it'd be much easier for me to let them know how i feel, but it seems like anything i say is taken as my being oversensitive, rude, disrespectful, etc. <br /><br />i'm at least glad to know i'm not the only one struggling to figure out how to respond well to such racism from family members.j.p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06767374175780082530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-28737223064838754442009-12-01T08:56:39.047-08:002009-12-01T08:56:39.047-08:00@morecowbell
yep, i'm with ya. Visiting the h...@morecowbell<br /><br />yep, i'm with ya. Visiting the husband's relatives for the first time this thanksgiving was rough - people we love, but people who are ignorant and say racist crap, in socially awkward ways that makes a response nearly impossible. and then i fail myself and people i love by not forcing a response.<br /><br />it is way different with family than friends. you just become the jerk that no one wants to be with because you are no fun...or the crazy liberal that no one gives any credit to or listens to.<br /><br />sigh.<br /><br /><br />@all<br /><br />check out resistracism's post on this - <br /><br />http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2009/11/13/so-now-i-know/.elise.anne.http://eliseanne.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-74393813637763128112009-11-26T22:17:04.386-08:002009-11-26T22:17:04.386-08:00What's really hurtful is when those racist ema...What's really hurtful is when those racist emails come from your own parents. I really had to put my foot down with my parents - conservative Republicans these days, though not when I was growing up -- to stop the emails. With other people, if I lose their "friendship" over that, OK. Don't want to surround myself with people who condone or participate in racist behavior or thoughts. But when it's your own parents ... I almost wish I never knew what they're capable of thinking.more cowbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17867825812404503048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-4963541384387042522009-11-24T15:43:54.004-08:002009-11-24T15:43:54.004-08:00@fromthetropics
The startled looks and stuttered ...@fromthetropics<br /><br />The startled looks and stuttered answers you must get. My name is unusual so I get that question sometimes when I introduce myself, and I always like to ask it in return. I get to watch some people fumble twice: once over the pronunciation of my name, and a second time over the unexpected question.<br /><br />More often than not, though, I get the opposite -- that detailed listing of what fraction of which ethnic groups they are from, and often their parents and grandparents as well. It's bizaare.A-no-no-missnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-76027289407401935642009-11-24T00:58:36.627-08:002009-11-24T00:58:36.627-08:00All these tactics to tell people that they've ...All these tactics to tell people that they've been racist. We all spend so much time thinking about it, while the racist's life is ignorant and literally care-free.<br /><br />I just keep thinking about the part of the original post addressed to people who tell these kinds of jokes and so on. I wish that there was a way for people like the OP to actually just say that to those people, just like that. Obviously, they'd never get to the end of the first sentence. But really, that needs to be said. No positive reinforcement. And I always wonder if it would matter to those people to know that they're diminishing themselves in the eyes of people who (just a second ago) they considered peers worthy of ingratiating themselves with. Can't we just make racism unbearably tacky once and for all? Sometimes I feel like that might be faster.karinovanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-58050509191283943682009-11-22T17:21:55.624-08:002009-11-22T17:21:55.624-08:00@A-no-no-miss - In a similar vein, sometimes when ...@A-no-no-miss - In a similar vein, sometimes when ppl ask me about my background/heritage, I ask them about their background/heritage. I usually do it because I'm genuinely interested (e.g. they have an interesting surname, etc). But I've noticed that I get amusing reactions. One was totally confused and stumbled through his answer. Another said, 'European', to which our friends (both Asian and White) laughed and said, "Uhm, yeah, that's kinda obvious".fromthetropicsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-1382104737945620462009-11-22T14:14:40.394-08:002009-11-22T14:14:40.394-08:00I get a special kick when people make comments abo...I get a special kick when people make comments about immigrants -- another way white people try to disguise their racism. Typically someone will make a remark about immigrants making our society worse, and I'll simply tell them I'm a child of immigrants (my parents are from Germany). The usual response is, "but you're different." So I'll ask, "In what way?" That usually stops them cold, and occasionally an enlightening conversation comes out of it. <br /><br />I don't know if I've actually made a difference or not, but it's always a pleasure to disrupt someone's conception of what an immigrant looks like.A-no-no-missnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-88337109724448820332009-11-22T05:35:39.028-08:002009-11-22T05:35:39.028-08:00>any suggestions as to how to handle this?
?? ...>any suggestions as to how to handle this?<br /><br />?? Uhm...just tell them that you don't like having emails like that clogging your inbox? That you feel uncomfortable with the jokes because they sound rude, racist, and sexist. Ask them to take you off their mailing list. You're part Hispanic and a woman. So you have every right to tell them that you find jokes about that offensive. If they can't respect you on this, then there is something deeply wrong with their attitudes. Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself. And if you have black, muslim, etc friends or co-workers, tell them that it's just not convenient to have jokes like that to pop up in your inbox (or, better yet, just tell them that it's offensive. Tell them that since you find the jokes about Hispanic ppl and women hurtful/offensive, you can imagine that black ppl and Muslims would find the other jokes offensive too). You can start by just saying, "I don't like these jokes, so can you please take me off your mailing list." If they still don't stop, then be more terse and clear about being offended and wanting them to stop.fromthetropicsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-75447047500191254312009-11-22T05:31:56.142-08:002009-11-22T05:31:56.142-08:00@j.p
I don't really have any good advice for ...@j.p<br /><br />I don't really have any good advice for handling it in a way that allows you to maintain your friendships with the offenders. I'm accustomed to losing friends over it. Much of the time I do "play dumb" as suggested above, and I'll ask "What's so funny about Central American lawn maintenance men sitting in their wheelbarrows on a break from working?" And they reply with something evasive and slap an "LOL" on the end and I'm trumped. From that point I realize this person I thought I knew still drags his knuckles when he walks. I wish there was good advice to give. Right now it's tell them how it makes you feel and lose friendships or don't tell them and don't bother interacting anymore.Victoriahttp://vintagelux.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-74755179065193910072009-11-21T20:50:05.475-08:002009-11-21T20:50:05.475-08:00i get so many racist jokes in my email and make me...i get so many racist jokes in my email and make me so angry. as a white/hispanic woman i find the racist jokes i get from both white and hispanic family members that are racist against blacks, muslims, immigrants (usually latinos) utterly disgusting. <br /><br />when i encounter racist comments from family members in person, i also respond in some way to let them know i consider their comments/attitude unacceptable. <br /><br />maybe i'm too cautious to not offend those who are continuously offending me, but for the life of me i can't figure out a way to handle the flood of obnoxious and hateful racist (and sexist) emails. any suggestions as to how to handle this?j.p.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06767374175780082530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-56365942790286435812009-11-21T10:52:35.883-08:002009-11-21T10:52:35.883-08:00@ Victoria: I never get racist jokes in my email.@ Victoria: I never get racist jokes in my email.Julian Abagondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05297363978280433722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-21802122997476949932009-11-21T10:40:17.130-08:002009-11-21T10:40:17.130-08:00I'm just going to repost what I said in the wh...I'm just going to repost what I said in the white liberals thread.<br /><br />"I look white even though I'm a bit Korean and some days I just want to become a hermit. i can't tell you how many times I've been shocked to hear things about Asians (and other races) said to me because it's assumed that a) I'm white, and b) anti-racism is just a fake wink-wink,nudge-nudge act put on by whites. And when you reveal that you're biracial, they will argue with you until they're blue in the face about how you're not "really" what you say you are. You know, instead of just owning up to their mistake and changing their ways."<br /><br />The Chemist has the right idea, playing dumb about the sterotype is a great way to make people confront their racism in a non-confrontational way. They can't accuse you of being PC because you just don't know. They can't say you're being too touchy because you simply have never attributed the stereotype to that group. And it shows them that these stereotypes are far from "obvious".Cloudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-6614843678275910422009-11-21T09:35:17.459-08:002009-11-21T09:35:17.459-08:00You have to wonder if these individuals are incred...You have to wonder if these individuals are incredibly stupid to assume that this behavior is acceptable. But, then again, when you have more passive people "accepting" such behavior, can you honestly feel surprised?honeybrown1976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-37902559130217722822009-11-21T07:04:58.695-08:002009-11-21T07:04:58.695-08:00Those emails are the worst...The latest round has ...Those emails are the worst...The latest round has been of the "people of WalMart" variety - and when I try to explain that, even though most of the people in the photos are white, it still bothers me - I get the "well, nothing makes you happy!" response. Uh, how about some photos of cute cats? That'd make me plenty happy.Jillianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792137126898623243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-64124454558573183532009-11-21T06:39:34.831-08:002009-11-21T06:39:34.831-08:00@DIMA - I've been called all sorts of names wh...@DIMA - I've been called all sorts of names which I think are more telling about the person who calls the name than me. I've had "n-- lover" shouted at me as I walked with my cousin in a predominately white neighborhood while we babysat a tiny little boy. I've been called "wigger" and "sellout" as well - and the best part about being called those things is when I ask them what they mean by that? "What's a wigger?" ..."Uhhh someone who acts black." "How do black people act?" *crickets* <br /><br />@Abagond - I really haven't noticed an increase or a decrease. I've experienced a steady flow since as far back as I can remember. Have you noticed a difference?Victoriahttp://vintagelux.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-89700555009834103292009-11-21T04:19:39.390-08:002009-11-21T04:19:39.390-08:00bloblogger - Good tactics but I can imagine using ...bloblogger - Good tactics but I can imagine using "Can you see how that's racist?" and the other person just taking quick offense, "Are you saying I'm racist?", following an offended white tirade.Scrum Diddlynoreply@blogger.com