tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post5480053646523652583..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: associate primitiveness with naturalnessmacon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-55046413001716275342010-04-16T23:53:53.908-07:002010-04-16T23:53:53.908-07:00You must have mixed up Catherine McKinnon with Ann...You must have mixed up Catherine McKinnon with Anne McClintock. I doubt that the former talked about something like anachronistic space, and I know that the latter does.Johannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-57161465958387697792010-03-26T20:17:56.845-07:002010-03-26T20:17:56.845-07:00If you ask me, this confirms the fourth tenet of J...If you ask me, this confirms <a href="http://www.ankhesen-mie.net/2010/03/draptoresponsia-case-study-1-tale-of.html" rel="nofollow">the fourth tenet of Jensen's Theory of White Fears</a> (3 case studies away from becoming Jensen's Law). Just scroll down.Alliyah Gallowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11043902720307040762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-35063182970535663792010-03-26T15:54:15.762-07:002010-03-26T15:54:15.762-07:00@attack_laurel, I hadn't heard of that product...@attack_laurel, I hadn't heard of that product before now, but that was definitely a moue of displeasure that crossed my face upon reading about it. I'd definitely write to the folks in charge of that catalogue - if nothing else, at least they won't be able to honestly claim ignorance in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-59214091772835311942010-03-26T15:35:57.630-07:002010-03-26T15:35:57.630-07:00@attack_laurel:
I don't know if they'd car...@attack_laurel:<br />I don't know if they'd care, but it couldn't hurt to write them.Sonicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-31015865461917933832010-03-26T14:30:53.381-07:002010-03-26T14:30:53.381-07:00Seriously?! None of those places are primitive. ...Seriously?! None of those places are primitive. I imagine the inhabitants would be very insulted to hear themselves described as such.<br /><br />This is another "white culture is boring!" advertising ploy, which is tacitly underscored with "...and more technologically advanced, more modern, more sophisticated, more <i>default</i>". Honestly, this is really racist. Fetishizing other countries like nothing in the 21st century has ever touched them. Ugh. >:(<br /><br />@Willow and saraspeaking: Do you remember that really fucked up rouge called "Indian Earth"? It was really popular in the 1970s as somehow more natural and in tune with nature than other make-up, trading on the idea of Native American stereotyping. I thought it had died an ignominious death, but I found it the other day in a catalogue. I normally like that catalogue, but I wonder if they'd care if I wrote to them about how racist that make-up really is.attack_laurelhttp://attack_laurel.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-50939013598417103712010-03-26T10:56:31.224-07:002010-03-26T10:56:31.224-07:00This is another excellent SWPD post, thanks Macon....This is another excellent SWPD post, thanks Macon.<br /><br />Morocco (where I lived for awhile) is so often used in this way. As Moroccan-American writer Laila Lalami recently said (here: http://lailalalami.com/2010/in-morocco/), in reference to early 20th century travel writing on Morocco: "the same images, the same tropes are still to be found in travel writing or reportage about Morocco today"<br /><br />Morocco ain't primitive, whatever that means. It's tremendously modern, but because Moroccan modernity doesn't jive with what White Americans think of as "modernity," it gets viewed as quaint or primitive instead.Jillianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01792137126898623243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-65456166568733880432010-03-26T08:28:26.776-07:002010-03-26T08:28:26.776-07:00@Willow: My thoughts exactly. But if they pitched ...@Willow: My thoughts exactly. But if they pitched that it might, er, cut into their bottom line. Clearly it's far better to capitalize on white romantic notions of exotic, "primitive" places.<br /><br />Also, ten bucks says that if they do expand their line to include North America, they will stick to the names of Native American tribes. Sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-67751565321295722802010-03-26T07:50:44.867-07:002010-03-26T07:50:44.867-07:00WTF. "Natural beauty can only come from natu...WTF. "Natural beauty can only come from natural makeup"? Um, what about no makeup?<br /><br />~<br /><br />This is sort of playing into the Magical Negress trope, right? Like, "hey, Western white women, look at how you've lost contact with your womanhood; here is the secret way of Real Earth Women" or some such.<br /><br />If the company actually wanted to "give tribute to women all over the world," perhaps they could show it by donating a sizable portion of their profits to girls' education in the places of each makeup shade's name.Willownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-57401994155817687572010-03-26T06:12:25.999-07:002010-03-26T06:12:25.999-07:00no no no no nooooooooooo.
Ibiza is not a blush! n...no no no no nooooooooooo.<br /><br />Ibiza is not a blush! nor Corsica an eye shadow. <br /><br />I wonder what Detroit and Silicone Valley shades of blush would look like.Tiburónhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10203887877691270812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-23647005795451566152010-03-26T05:52:38.664-07:002010-03-26T05:52:38.664-07:00This one is connected to the white solidarity thin...This one is connected to the white solidarity thing WP assume we all have with one another. I don't associate any of those places with being primitive, nor do I associate primitiveness with naturalness either. The scary part is that the names of the colors passed through probably many hands and still made it to the market. Primitive is ok with announcing that non-white countries are primitive and admirably "backward." <br /><br />On a related "effed up" makeup names note: last night I was bored and wandering about Target, looked at lipsticks, and saw Rimmel had a couple of shades I couldn't quite figure out: <a href="http://www.rimmellondon.com/US/products/lips/product.aspx?id=459" rel="nofollow">Latino</a> (top right row of palette) and <a href="http://www.rimmellondon.com/US/products/lips/product.aspx?id=315" rel="nofollow">Brazilian</a> (also top right row of palette). "Brazilian" I could have *almost* looked beyond (because I've seen some European places as lipstick shades before), but not when the shade isn't "Brazil" as in the place, instead of "Brazilian" as in the people or things from Brazil. And *especially* not when the themes for most of the shades are about sexiness, exoticism, and nakedness. "Latino" immediately struck me where "Brazilian" took a few extra seconds.Victoriahttp://vintagelux.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-59331691344492806142010-03-26T00:24:57.453-07:002010-03-26T00:24:57.453-07:00Well, you know that us colored folks are more attu...Well, you know that us colored folks are more attuned to Mother Earth and all *rolls eyes*.<br /><br />It's a weird way of "othering" the beauty of women of color while pretending to admire it or perhaps, realign the jealousy of such beauty by pseudo-insulting it.honeybrown1976noreply@blogger.com