tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post4330370318941957597..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: fear backlashmacon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-9779493648258524772009-12-16T13:24:08.837-08:002009-12-16T13:24:08.837-08:00seeker wrote:
"Many sikhs were killed after ...seeker wrote:<br /><br />"Many sikhs were killed after 9/11 because of hatred against islam."<br /><br />In the US? False. After 9/11 there were NO retaliatory murders. Okay. You might dig up one. But that's it.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-90480638523096702122009-12-16T11:32:02.037-08:002009-12-16T11:32:02.037-08:00Many sikhs were killed after 9/11 because of hatre...Many sikhs were killed after 9/11 because of hatred against islam.Seekernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-44654638127800761112009-11-19T16:03:24.399-08:002009-11-19T16:03:24.399-08:00You know, I really, really wanted to believe that ...You know, I really, really wanted to believe that Sarah Palin gets more flack than she deserves and that she is, deep down, a wholesome woman truly for the interest of the United States. But it looks like I'm just going to have to accept that was naive of me.<br /><br />http://www.racialicious.com/2009/11/19/good-to-know-sarah-palin-believes-in-racial-profiling-glenn-beck/Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678690874559453426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-47085557251115661982009-11-12T19:25:53.336-08:002009-11-12T19:25:53.336-08:00"hey janek, don't let the door hit you in..."hey janek, don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave the country then...<br /><br />seriously, WHY ARE YOU HERE if america is so terrible?<br /><br />but...luckily for you; planes take off EVERY DAY from the u.s. and land elsewhere."<br /><br />Most people who immigrate to North America, do so to escape poverty. If they are racialized, they are willing to brave potential abuse or perhaps they are just brainwashed in regards to the propaganda put out(The streets are paved with gold etc). If they believe the propaganda, they are soon disabused of these notions. Telling Janek to 'go back' is just as ignorant as anything she/he said. In fact it's worse. Telling Janek that they are ignorant because their perceptions are different than yours smacks of 'privilege' . "How dare a foreigner come here and criticize our country" type of tone. I find foreigner's impressions to be quite interesting, although I may not agree with everything they say but that's with life in general. Why don't you tell all the foreigners who criticize the States to' go back and they are 'ignorant' when they comment on things you don't like or agree with?Herneithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-18328859277527553212009-11-11T23:05:03.154-08:002009-11-11T23:05:03.154-08:00On the topic of the video, which was interesting, ...On the topic of the video, which was interesting, I'd like to see a repeat of the study done where the muslim woman claimed to be a tourist instead of an American - would the proportions be the same if the "outsider" wasn't "one of us". I doubt the responses would be much different, but I'd still be interested.<br /><br />Another variant that would be interesting would be if the victim in the piece broke a different white mainstream taboo - say perhaps a very old, wrinkled woman wearing a tiny bikini. Would people respond in the same proportions?EPTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-72323579246952396972009-11-11T10:17:31.669-08:002009-11-11T10:17:31.669-08:00Oh please. If a white guy had shot up the base th...Oh please. If a white guy had shot up the base the media would be blaming Limbaugh, Beck, and anyone who had any opposition at all to Obama'a policies.<br /><br />There would be no hand wringing, no insistence that the shooter "just snapped" or fears of some mythical backlash. <br /><br />Give me a fucking break.NightFlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04353837222817533315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-39128767501308114692009-11-09T20:09:40.164-08:002009-11-09T20:09:40.164-08:00The funny thing about replies like this, regardles...The funny thing about replies like this, regardless of the subject of the post, is exactly what Janek expected people here to talk about on a blog about racism. Does she have this strange notion that many people walk around drawing lines in the sand between non-POCs and POCs? Especially when most people have more pressing things to worry about? Like holding a job? Or what to have for lunch today?<br /><br />Maybe I'm out of the loop, but I'm pretty sure people come to a blog about racism to have an honest chat about racism because there is no easy approach to it outside of an internet forum. But believe it or not, I do not sit on the train every morning thinking, "This white dude next to me has got it in for me. Hell, he probably thinks I don't even speak English and is just dying to tell me to go back to my own country." More likely, the thoughts will be along the lines of, "Damn, I have to share my seat with somebody today."<br /><br />Who is it supposed to surprise that people will come to a blog like to this to let out frustrating thoughts that they probably don't feel safe sharing elsewhere?Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678690874559453426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-6383895687572981782009-11-09T19:19:10.161-08:002009-11-09T19:19:10.161-08:00hey janek, don't let the door hit you in the a...hey janek, don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave the country then...<br /><br />seriously, WHY ARE YOU HERE if america is so terrible?<br /><br />but...luckily for you; planes take off EVERY DAY from the u.s. and land elsewhere.randynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-26113348472961649162009-11-09T16:05:56.882-08:002009-11-09T16:05:56.882-08:00and thank you for proving my point that you are to...and thank you for proving my point that you are totally ignorant.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-27145629908415546372009-11-09T15:07:24.621-08:002009-11-09T15:07:24.621-08:00I'm talking the American culture i've seen...I'm talking the American culture i've seen with my own eyes. You're all the same regardless of color...full of underlying hate for one another. Even your response to me is lined with hate<br /><br />I can honestly see i'm going to get nowhere responding though. But thanks for proving my point.Janeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-24925233944736299402009-11-09T14:22:30.923-08:002009-11-09T14:22:30.923-08:00@Janek So Janek, which "culture" are you...@Janek So Janek, which "culture" are you referring to? Mainstream White culture, which is the one broadcasted, or the cultures of the REST of the U.S. It seems to me that you have only looked at the surface picture. and btw where are you from that's so much better?<br /><br />Hey Mason, that should be your next topic: Think They Arent Racist If They're Not From The U.S.AKarennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-68476709359725250422009-11-08T15:30:07.999-08:002009-11-08T15:30:07.999-08:00Typical Americans arguing about an issue with your...Typical Americans arguing about an issue with your culture in general and thinking more division over race and racial definitions, white versus people of color, is going to solve anything.<br /><br />No wonder people, including those like myself who have come to the U.S., don't want to assimilate into your self-abusive culture. You people make me laugh over your contributions to racial divisions while claiming your trying to mend the divisions.Janeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-36657812961882412952009-11-08T12:43:32.686-08:002009-11-08T12:43:32.686-08:00[no slappz, enough with the anti-Muslim screeds.][no slappz, enough with the anti-Muslim screeds.]macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-39193913643003182662009-11-08T11:56:51.799-08:002009-11-08T11:56:51.799-08:00@balom
Premeditation and "snapping" are...@balom<br /><br />Premeditation and "snapping" are not mutually exclusive. V-Tech and Columbine were BOTH premeditated. Giving furniture because you know you're going to die isn't political. People who commit suicide often perform acts of altruism before the act. Are they ideologically motivated? Come on.<br /><br />@no_slapzz<br /><br />To assume that Muslims don't "lose it" at least occasionally is also hopelessly naive. I guarantee you even if this shooting was politically motivated eventually another shooting will roll around perpetrated by a Muslim which wasn't politically motivated. Remember what all the reports are saying about Ft. Hood "It's home for the soldiers." You do not walk into your University/high school/ place of work and begin shooting if you're politically motivated. In fact, the odds are against that. Acts of terror and ideological violence are perpetrated against <i>others</i>. People you don't routinely associate with, and it seems Hasan sought specific people out.<br /><br />Meanwhile the media routinely labels mosques as being extreme that turn out to be rather mild places. When a church says non-believers are going to hell, it's just good ol' American religion. When a mosque does the same thing, it's "extreme". In either case I'm not a fan, but to draw a distinction between the two is pig-ignorant. <br /><br />Cloudy already demolished your vapid "no anti-Muslim hate crime" BS, so I won't bother. Look at my comment about the student at my university above. I live in Atlanta, a very liberal metropolis. That's not provincial.The Chemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15970398885870679916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-72866442699581436092009-11-08T11:02:35.390-08:002009-11-08T11:02:35.390-08:00@balom
The Virginia Tech shooter didn't "...@balom<br /><br />The Virginia Tech shooter didn't "just snap". He had a considerable period of premeditation.EPTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-46294840230849105122009-11-08T09:36:54.467-08:002009-11-08T09:36:54.467-08:00no slappz,
WRONG.
http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/legisl...no slappz,<br /><br />WRONG. <br />http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/legislative/hatecrimes.html<br /><br />http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/discrimination/pages.aspx?id=157<br /><br />http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.hate.crimes/<br /><br />And you could look up more yourself if you would actually bother to educate yourself on the subject.Cloudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-25795076325624277292009-11-08T09:24:52.280-08:002009-11-08T09:24:52.280-08:00@balom So the fact that he was being racially hara...@balom So the fact that he was being racially harassed has nothing to do with it?<br /><br />brilliant sherlock.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-74482822472927238722009-11-08T05:34:27.770-08:002009-11-08T05:34:27.770-08:00There is a great difference between Virginia Tech ...There is a great difference between Virginia Tech and this shooting. In the case of V-Tech the shooter didn't had any political objectives, making it just a random slaughter and not an act of terrorism. The Fort Hood shooter clearly intended to make the attack a political act. He had been giving his furniture away before the shooting and was under scrutiny for making jihad supporting posts online.It's not like he just decided to shoot the base up because they served him over fried waffles at breakfast.This has everything to do with Islam.balomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-5903531238551668442009-11-08T04:56:20.526-08:002009-11-08T04:56:20.526-08:00The video proved only one point -- that people are...The video proved only one point -- that people are relatively free to express any thoughts they have.<br /><br />As long as there is no violence, there is no real problem.<br /><br />Of course the counter-man, if he were truly an employee and the episode were real, would have brought some legal trouble on the bakery.<br /><br />But he and the customers are all free to feel whatever they claimed to feel.<br /><br />Of course it's worth considering that the video team went to a provincial location in Texas to create its scene. <br /><br />Similar attitudes can be found all over the US, but one FACT is clear -- there have been NO HATE-CRIME MURDERS of MUSLIMS in the US. Not even in the months after 9/11.<br /><br />On the other hand, around the world muslim terrorist murders of other muslims and non-muslims occur on a near daily basis.<br /><br />Furthermore, as you will learn if you follow the details emerging about Major Hasan, he was a member of a radical mosque in Maryland. It is closely tied to the Wahabbism, the extremist version of Islam. To think there is no connection between Hasan's grotesque crime and his religion is hopelessly naive.no_slappzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04207475509053402475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-63305853703599785712009-11-07T16:21:11.652-08:002009-11-07T16:21:11.652-08:00I cried watching this; tears of anger and tears of...I cried watching this; tears of anger and tears of joy, for those that spoke out. <br /><br />It makes me second guess myself-- would I be willing to stand up for a stranger? What if I felt like I would be attacked if I said something? <br /><br />It's upsetting on so many levels.Marie Simashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07255293343641053930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-915975720356425272009-11-07T14:57:29.318-08:002009-11-07T14:57:29.318-08:00By the way, 20/20 has already said this was the la...By the way, 20/20 has already said this was the largest terrorist attack since 9/11... even though this is much closer to the Viginia Tech shooting.Cloudynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-27088378342663350962009-11-07T11:40:06.575-08:002009-11-07T11:40:06.575-08:00"This makes me so angry. He was a SOLDIER, an..."This makes me so angry. He was a SOLDIER, an AMERICAN who did the shooting. This has NOTHING to do with Islam or religion."<br /><br />Nothing to do with relgion? Are you high?cat scratchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-30685530808702979282009-11-06T21:31:27.562-08:002009-11-06T21:31:27.562-08:00As a Muslim woman who wears the headscarf, I have ...As a Muslim woman who wears the headscarf, I have concerned about enduring backlash as a result of the shootings. I have already faced three vicious stare downs which my husband had to interrupt. (Thank God he's 6'4" and 240 lbs, sure to scare away the cowards who pick on women). I can only imagine what will happen when I am by myself.Jamerican Muslimahhttp://jamericanmuslimah.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-90186945494660525842009-11-06T18:12:08.156-08:002009-11-06T18:12:08.156-08:00"I've seen far too much of fundamentalist..."I've seen far too much of fundamentalist Christianity for that to be comforting..."<br /><br />I didn't intend it to be comforting, I'm just tired of the "dangerous Islam" trope. Personally, I take an anthropologist's view of religion and millenarianism though, so it doesn't scare me. I don't believe that to understand is to excuse, but to understand is to stop being afraid, because understanding requires that you resign yourself to reality, however unpleasant.The Chemisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15970398885870679916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-80927499999622121322009-11-06T17:38:20.766-08:002009-11-06T17:38:20.766-08:00but God thinks prejudice is wrong
No, he doesn'...<i>but God thinks prejudice is wrong</i><br />No, he doesn't. He's quite in favor of of it, in fact, as long as He (or more accurately, his minions) get to be on the delivering end.<br /><br /><i>There are no practical differences between Muslim extremists and other religious extremists, I can tell you that from personal experience.</i><br />I've seen far too much of fundamentalist Christianity for that to be comforting...Eusthenopteronnoreply@blogger.com