tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post3134348555785472018..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: get a pass for speaking poorly in publicmacon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-47367656896338399322008-10-18T14:10:00.000-07:002008-10-18T14:10:00.000-07:00Great post, funny too. And hey I came over from Bl...Great post, funny too. And hey I came over from Black Voices where this post is picked for "best of black blogs". I like your blog.<BR/><BR/>http://www.blackvoices.com/best-black-blogsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-15412061410909446152008-10-10T17:40:00.000-07:002008-10-10T17:40:00.000-07:00I still don't know what Bush was talking about whe...I still don't know what Bush was talking about when he said:<BR/><BR/><I>I thought an interesting comment was made — somebody said to me, I heard somebody say, “Now, where’s Mandela?” Well, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.</I><BR/><BR/> <A HREF="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/20/bush-mandela/" REL="nofollow">WTF?!</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-66565779246811252752008-10-09T15:36:00.000-07:002008-10-09T15:36:00.000-07:00Now look what y'all have made me do:"Y'all" and "y...Now look what y'all have made me do:<BR/><BR/>"Y'all" and "youse" are <I>second</I> person plural. Third person plural is "they."Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12433254398377357737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-66593268558718366732008-10-09T08:35:00.000-07:002008-10-09T08:35:00.000-07:00You make extremely valid point about race and lang...You make extremely valid point about race and language. I often point out when people complain about language that its purpose is to convey a message. If you understood what the person was trying to say their word choice is irrelevant because the speech fulfilled its purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-54067736202579590552008-10-09T07:11:00.000-07:002008-10-09T07:11:00.000-07:00Ha! Great way of making this point, Macon. Cubical...Ha! Great way of making this point, Macon. Cubical neighbors wonder, though, what I was guffawing about. Guffaw Guffaw!<BR/><BR/>Dale, you don't seem to get it. Yes of course Palin gets derided up and down for that cornpone accent. But she doesn't get derided for spewing a "white" accent, a "white" way of talking that's called JUST "white." It's maybe, (white) rural, or (white) Fargo, but not just white. Like, you know, that Obama "terrorist fist jab" was just "black." Or wait, come to think of it, maybe black and Muslim? Anyway, some sort of monolithic non-whiteness. So that's what you're missing, Dale. Whiteness doesn't get monolithicized, if thats a word, homogenized, but other non-white groups do, and this public talkin' thang is another example. As a "WHITE" person, Sarah Pailin' gets a pass from other white folks for speaking poorly in public, though you're right, not as a "rural person," an "Alaska person," a "cornpone-eating person," or whatever.<BR/><BR/>So, capiche?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-32360972256892422972008-10-09T05:47:00.000-07:002008-10-09T05:47:00.000-07:00Thanks for posting this! don't let Obama (or any b...Thanks for posting this! <BR/><BR/>don't let Obama (or any black man) say Yah, yous, cuz, fo sho or better yet, express anger or be aggressive!La Legione di Resistenzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05818326093597590053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-56598562085056982392008-10-08T21:01:00.000-07:002008-10-08T21:01:00.000-07:00If you look at Bush's early debates in Texas, his ...If you look at Bush's early debates in Texas, his English was far less mangled and folksy. For him that sort of English is an act so that seems like a good old boy instead of the son of a rich and powerful family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-12730568769104626682008-10-08T20:58:00.000-07:002008-10-08T20:58:00.000-07:00To be fair, Obama drops his g's too and changes hi...To be fair, Obama drops his g's too and changes his English depending on who his audience is. The colloquial English you hear him speak in the campaign is not the same sort of English he spoke growing up, at least not if you go by his book "Dreams from My Father".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-82813884087853128402008-10-08T20:56:00.000-07:002008-10-08T20:56:00.000-07:00Palin's English seems like an act to me. Does anyo...Palin's English seems like an act to me. Does anyone talk like that? Like in real life?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-47238004035719381732008-10-08T20:53:00.000-07:002008-10-08T20:53:00.000-07:00Your Star Trek "He's dead, Jim" clips reminds me o...Your Star Trek "He's dead, Jim" clips reminds me of Julie Chen's "But firsts" on "Big Brother":<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDo7-4HbE80Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-71130633966468437462008-10-08T20:38:00.000-07:002008-10-08T20:38:00.000-07:00Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?Sarah Palin has been...Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?<BR/><BR/>Sarah Palin has been derided from Miami to Fairbanks for that cornpone act of hers.Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05504359071953353269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-84486777841167254792008-10-08T19:46:00.000-07:002008-10-08T19:46:00.000-07:00OK.This may be a regional thing, but I've said, I'...OK.<BR/><BR/>This may be a regional thing, but I've said, I've heard lots of other people say it that the way Palin speaks makes her sound dumb. I do know other people who were offended by her 'aw shucks' and like mannerisms at her debate. <BR/><BR/>The things that have come out of Bush's mouth in terms of word order makes me wonder again and again how this man got elected--twice.<BR/><BR/>In my mind, none of these people (Bush, Palin, McCain) have gotten any kind of a pass for sounding like idiots. I resent having to try and figure out what someone said. English grammar rules are there for a reason!<BR/><BR/>In all honesty, I'm glad that Obama doesn't sound like that--to me it finally speaks to the fact that we are going to elect someone for president who might actually sound presidential! Novel thought I know.<BR/><BR/>I use you'll all the time--mostly as a way around the third person plural problem that English has. On occasion someone will give me a hard time about it--usually along the lines of, 'you're not from the South' and I give that person a steely glare and ask if they have a better solution for the 3rd person plural in the English language and then tends to shut them right up. I suspect most of them don't what I'm talking about, but that is another story.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13749690809465778835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-37196297708583274392008-10-08T16:51:00.000-07:002008-10-08T16:51:00.000-07:00This goes back to the fist jab. The Obama's couldn...This goes back to the fist jab. The Obama's couldn't even get away with that. <BR/><BR/>McCain has had ties to Nazi sympathizers and Palin, anti American secessionists from Alaska. <BR/><BR/>Yet there is little say about any of this. <BR/><BR/>The bar is indeed raised for everybody else, and whites get a pass on it for being "cute" and accessible. <BR/><BR/>The village does have it's idiots, but in the US it seems, if white, an idiot can go places. <BR/><BR/>Sad actually. At work I point out the riff raff, you have to before the riff raff becomes somebody they can't deal with down the road. Because they awarded as they sometimes do, bad behavior.-=Topper=-https://www.blogger.com/profile/06321864054570212822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-51273127267033645082008-10-08T16:35:00.000-07:002008-10-08T16:35:00.000-07:00Your humorous style of blogging is wonderful, and ...Your humorous style of blogging is wonderful, and I love it! I'm still cracking up at that second clip. <BR/><BR/>I, too often feel dumber having listening to the pointless rhetoric of those ass-ociated with the McCain/Palin ticket.Cherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14904577862015863127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-23294913424351368322008-10-08T14:06:00.000-07:002008-10-08T14:06:00.000-07:00The English language lacks a good word to express ...The English language lacks a good word to express the third person plural. <BR/><BR/>I hate, hate, hate the word "yous" to express the third person plural. It is mostly American whites (regardless of class and/or ethnicity!) who use that non-word. It is their whiteness that allows them to get away with it. <BR/><BR/>But nooooo, don't let a black person use "y'all" (which, when you think about it, and look at the word in print, is a more appropriate word--it is the contraction of "you" and "all") to express third person plural. <BR/><BR/>The "y'all" user is branded as being ignorant. The "yous" user is never judged.redcatbikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08645491470348404443noreply@blogger.com