tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post2334313193470287916..comments2024-03-06T08:29:13.333-08:00Comments on stuff white people do: white weekend linksmacon dhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-14550742945728322152008-11-12T14:51:00.000-08:002008-11-12T14:51:00.000-08:00Macon, I am commenting on You and what You choose ...<I>Macon, I am commenting on You and what You choose to blog about.</I><BR/><BR/>Then what's with all this stuff about what you see as the failures of other writings by Tim Wise?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I don't imagine you'll have any trouble finding blogs more suited to your short attention span. Bye!macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-74233179241944874812008-11-12T14:24:00.000-08:002008-11-12T14:24:00.000-08:00Macon, I am commenting on You and what You choose ...Macon, I am commenting on You and what You choose to blog about. <BR/><BR/>And yes, there are many beautiful writers out there, far more eloquent, thoughtful, accessible, and they do it for free.<BR/><BR/>Big long winded posts don't accomplish as much as the simplicity and beauty of honest truth.vanishing pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162872388532519328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-70889373897519195202008-11-12T13:20:00.000-08:002008-11-12T13:20:00.000-08:00Kathy, did you know that Tim Wise has a blog? Mayb...Kathy, did you know that Tim Wise has a blog? Maybe you should take up these issues with him. I never said he's a perfect white anti-racist. As for him getting paid to write, are you suggesting that he make a living at some other full-time job, and just do this work in his spare time, for free? And do you think that if he did so, the work that he does would be nearly as good and thorough, and as much of a contribution, as it is?macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-11189567187371743292008-11-12T10:46:00.000-08:002008-11-12T10:46:00.000-08:00and another thing, Macon, as regards Tim Wise, who...and another thing, Macon, as regards Tim Wise, who the (f) does he think he is when he speaks for white women?<BR/>I have read some of his long winded posts on white women, why doesn't he instead focus on white male patriarchal privilege and how sexism and patriarchy hurts men????? Did it ever occur to you that sexism hurts men, it forces upon them all the hateful decisions that must be made, it forces upon them slavery to white women's demands for material things, it forces men to never be able to cry, or take a break?<BR/><BR/>I realized that Tim Wise was targeting people of color in his writings after he wrote "Your whiteness is Showing" as it only inflamed and infuriated white women and did nothing to help illuminate to white women what their problem with white racism might be.<BR/><BR/>Tim Wise also likes to focus exclusively on the evils of white people, and not man's inhumanity to man.vanishing pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162872388532519328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-82032591002153358012008-11-12T09:19:00.000-08:002008-11-12T09:19:00.000-08:00Macon, yes, i read the entire article. Look, I kno...Macon, yes, i read the entire article. <BR/><BR/>Look, I know a lot of people like Tim Wise, but I have some issues with him, first, that he get's paid to write, and even though he sends out freebies, that's little more than when a fast food restaurant puts out little samples, see when you do something for a living, self-interest gets involved, if the privilege of double standards were to come tumbling down, than what would he do for a living??? <BR/>That doesn't mean I don't respect all of his work, or appreciate the anger he has taken on, but I do think he tries, first and foremost, to speak for other people, and secondly, I think that he likes playing the commiseration game.vanishing pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162872388532519328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-45946536983233410822008-11-12T08:49:00.000-08:002008-11-12T08:49:00.000-08:00Macon, who do you think Tim Wise's target audience...<I>Macon, who do you think Tim Wise's target audience is?</I><BR/><BR/>People with anti-racist leanings, however active. <BR/><BR/><I>Why are you highlighting the historic moment for millions of blacks who stood on line, if your focus is on white and whiteness.</I><BR/><BR/>Because Wise is writing there about a lot of people on the left, white ones especially, who feel cynical about the significance of Obama's ascendancy. <BR/><BR/><I>It seems to me as if you are again painting Black people as a monolithic group who only voted for Obama because of the possibility of a historic moment or solely because Obama is Black.</I><BR/><BR/>Again?<BR/><BR/>Saying that millions stood in line to vote for Obama is not saying that they all did. It's also not denying that black people who did vote for him had a myriad of reasons for doing so. Are you saying that the day was not meaningful for millions of black folks? <BR/><BR/><I>What concerned me most about the campaign was that white Republicans were using every racist tactic possible, well over the top of what would be considered moral or ethical, yet many white people were unable to comprehend that this was unethical, well, really evil behavior. What concerns me is that, while Obama did have a landslide victory, he did not get the majority of the white vote.</I><BR/><BR/>I agree, and those things "concern" me too, which is why I've been writing about them here, including <A HREF="http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/11/play-race-doesnt-matter-anymore-card.html" REL="nofollow">this post</A> on the day after the election. But I don't think those pressing concerns are the only ones worth attending to. Did you read all of Wise's article? It's about the need to keep pushing for change, which I think is especially true now, in part because so many white folks are already using Obama's presidency as confirmation of their belief that racism doesn't exist or matter anymore.macon dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07795547197817128339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-10670582710193128272008-11-12T08:22:00.000-08:002008-11-12T08:22:00.000-08:00"if you are incapable of mustering pride in this m..."if you are incapable of mustering pride in this moment, and if you cannot appreciate how meaningful this day is for millions of black folks who stood in lines for up to seven hours to vote, then your cynicism has become such an encumbrance as to render you all but useless to the liberation movement."<BR/>from Tim Wise<BR/><BR/>Macon, who do you think Tim Wise's target audience is? Why are you highlighting the historic moment for millions of blacks who stood on line, if your focus is on white and whiteness. It seems to me as if you are again painting Black people as a monolithic group who only voted for Obama because of the possibility of a historic moment or solely because Obama is Black. <BR/>What concerned me most about the campaign was that white Republicans were using every racist tactic possible, well over the top of what would be considered moral or ethical, yet many white people were unable to comprehend that this was unethical, well, really evil behavior. What concerns me is that, while Obama did have a landslide victory, he did not get the majority of the white vote.vanishing pointhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162872388532519328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-91491664928357876522008-11-10T11:46:00.000-08:002008-11-10T11:46:00.000-08:00I LIKE THE PHOTOS OF THE KIDS ITS ADORABLEI LIKE THE PHOTOS OF THE KIDS ITS ADORABLEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-47826196912304312122008-11-10T09:25:00.000-08:002008-11-10T09:25:00.000-08:00Thanks for the readings, macon. I like Tim Wise's ...Thanks for the readings, macon. I like Tim Wise's answer to cynics, and the video is f'ing hilarious. Schadenfreude is so sweet these days!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-27859485388992336452008-11-09T07:55:00.000-08:002008-11-09T07:55:00.000-08:00I saw that progression of photos on another blog t...I saw that progression of photos on another blog this week as well - it is so touching.Shainahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115196203975421372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-528074983146803930.post-31098549399768400402008-11-08T12:56:00.000-08:002008-11-08T12:56:00.000-08:00that picture of the kids and the obama sign made m...that picture of the kids and the obama sign made me tear up.BigRedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09759749577650048187noreply@blogger.com